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what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting criminal investigations to the white house and others actually stem way back to the watergate scandal. an investigation back then uncovered abuses and mistakes and the justice department has since made changes. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! reminds me of our network before cdw virtualized it. how
what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting...
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the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well because that's against the law. because that's against the law to cross my property. >> i'll let them know. >> honorary diplomatic council. jill kelley talking to tampa police asking for diplomatic protection. that's not something she should expect. we will dig into who miss kelley is in a moment. first i mentioned there's a lot of twists and turns and a lot of people with ties to this scandal. let's lay it out for you right now. retired general david petraeus resigned on friday after admitting an affai
the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know...
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fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are lawmakers going to find out? >> well, they're going to have some meetings tomorrow on the hill that are going to come before hearings open thursday. and michael morel, acting direct tore of the cia and sean joyce will be involved in these meetings. they'll be asked a lot of questions about what they knew about the petraeus investigation, when they knew it, and why they didn't come forward. a couple things at play here, erin. one is, keep in mind, the fbi itself has said very little about this case so far. public
fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are...
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she mentioned it to a friend of hers who works at the fbi. the fbi all of a sudden is looking into personal emails. >> the law of unintended consequences. think about that for a minute. it starts out with someone saying what am i getting these harassing emails? where are they coming from? all of a sudden it leads to all this. >> let's be careful here. >> no way. >> how is this working? >> here's the reality. what happens is there is this protection. we all know about the fourth amendment, right? the right protection. there's some measure of protection, and there's also an electronic protection privacy act. the problem, ashleigh, is it was enacted in 1986. >> we didn't even carry cell phones with us at that time, so it's outdated. why is that relevant? it's relevant because of this. if are you transmitting emails, there's a level of protection. if those emails that are stored on a server and they're there for six months, they're deemed abandoned, and as a result of that, the government without a warrant can now say, look, this person is a subj
she mentioned it to a friend of hers who works at the fbi. the fbi all of a sudden is looking into personal emails. >> the law of unintended consequences. think about that for a minute. it starts out with someone saying what am i getting these harassing emails? where are they coming from? all of a sudden it leads to all this. >> let's be careful here. >> no way. >> how is this working? >> here's the reality. what happens is there is this protection. we all know...
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you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of that agent who had this picture taken in between two dummies and make it look like he was a target at the range, and he sent it to a number of people including the media. >> the fbi has really been amazing over these past few decades. since the sordid days of j. edgar hoover in rebuilding its reputation. an incident like this could have a negative impact. >> it could but it won't. the agents should not have got outside of the fbi. that's why these protocols exist. that's why the white house wasn't notified, because of what happened decad
you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of...
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>> i refer you to the fbi. they have as i understand it, protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branchs of the investigations. and you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general patreaus until wednesday and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi's a place to guy in terms of explanation of the protocols they follow. i understand that is the answer that they will give, that there are protocols they follow that govern how they inform the various branchs of government of the investigations. >> do you think people think it's utterly bizarre, the day after the election and anger on capitol hill? the time, at least the appearance? >> look, all i can tell you is, when the white house was informed and i would let the relevant members of congress explain to you how and when they were informed. my understanding is there are protocols the fbi follows with regards to these notifications and i would refer yo
>> i refer you to the fbi. they have as i understand it, protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branchs of the investigations. and you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general patreaus until wednesday and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi's a place to guy in terms of explanation of the protocols they follow. i understand that is the answer that they will give, that...
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a scandal is fbi looking at a lovers quarrels. >> a scandal -- >> you believe the media's priorities are completely screwed up in the sense that the serious questions of running a war and serious careers have been consuminged, overshadows, off the screen so to speak in favor of the focus on sex and scandal. let's face it. the cia director resigns. it's hard not to cover the story, but you think that the -- we are scandal-insaysed in this business? >> yes. i was thinking earlier i'm glad i'm no long were "the washington post" because i would have been pressured to cover this and i would have been really conflicted. it is in a moral a miscalculation of priorities. we in the nation seem to be more concerned about the sex lives of our generals and that the real lives of our soldiers. i actually printed out something before i came over here today. it's a great trivia question. excuse me. in my service i need to use glasses. who is sergeant channing b. hicks? who is specialist joe sif richardson? the answer is they were two soldiers who died last friday in afghanistan. everybody knows paul
a scandal is fbi looking at a lovers quarrels. >> a scandal -- >> you believe the media's priorities are completely screwed up in the sense that the serious questions of running a war and serious careers have been consuminged, overshadows, off the screen so to speak in favor of the focus on sex and scandal. let's face it. the cia director resigns. it's hard not to cover the story, but you think that the -- we are scandal-insaysed in this business? >> yes. i was thinking...
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the fbi has its own protocols in terms of how they proceed. and, you know, i'm iffing to let director mueller and others examine those protocols and make some statements to the public general. i do topt emphasize that general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, afghanistan, and as head of the cia. business hen own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with his family and with his wife, and it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least he has provided this country an extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that david petraeus has done, and my hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. again, i think you're going to have to talk to the f
the fbi has its own protocols in terms of how they proceed. and, you know, i'm iffing to let director mueller and others examine those protocols and make some statements to the public general. i do topt emphasize that general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, afghanistan, and as head of the cia. business hen own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the cia with respect to this personal...
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jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon, thank you so much for clearing up what we can. i have the sense there will be a lot more to clear up in coming hours and days. >> let's keep digging. as for how the white house is responding, let's bring in brianna keeler. brianna, the president and congress have been scheduled this week to meet about the fiscal cliff. might these new details on the fbi investigation be a bit of a distraction for them? >> well, i would say certainly all of the discussion over this scandal takes up a lot of the oxygen in the news cycle, for sure. the fiscal cliff is going to continue to be a prio
jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence...
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and so, i think that again we have the fbi investigation. we're going to have, i'm sure, the intelligence committee involved in this. i heard senator feinstein talking about her plans, so i think that we will get to the bottom of this. and i think what will probably happen in the end is that we'll figure out what went wrong here. and it will be one of those critical moments where we have to correct our course, whatever mistakes may have been made. if any. but i do believe that this is a critical moment for our military. >> congressman elijah cummings joining us. ranking member of the house oversight committee. nice to see you, sir. thank you for your time this morning. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead, a starting point, he resigned after a sex scandal of his own. former new jersey governor jim mcgreevey is going to join us to talk about sort of the fallout and how people deal with the fallout. that's straight ahead. stay with us. one. two. three. my credit card rewards are easy to remember. with the bankamericard cash rewards
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he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business. >> you're talking about the agent that was contacted initially and wasn't part of the fbi investigation, but had some knowledge because he was the one that passed it on to his superiors, he then apparently went to someone who went to eric cantor, and that sort of started the ball rolling. that's not how this came out. is he really a major player in all of this? >> i think he should be and i think he will be. because that is dishonorable conduct. the fbi and the cia spent the second half of the 20th century at war with one another and their feuding was
he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business....
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willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he believes information about comings and goings that paula broadwell sent sparked the investigation and he said there were grounds to do that. >> brian, thanks very much. >>> if a top general has an affair, is it a crime under military law? the answer might be yes. is it time for a refresh you er course from the top down? more in the "the situation room." ♪ [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no
willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he...
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the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more than one internet address. news reports say paula broadwell, now known as the person sending harassing e-mails to kelley believed to send them from various places. depending on where the computer was plugged in, the sender would have different ip addresses. an expert on internet monitoring explains what the fbi likely did next. >> so what they did is they determined that she logged into this e-mail account from hotels around the country. and so they contacted the hotels and got the guest lists, the names of people who were staying at the hotels on those
the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more...
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not the person, the friend, the neighbor, the relative fbi agent. in this particular case, kelley contacts a friend of hers, who is an agent in the tampa office. that agent takes the information into the tampa office. it goes to the cyber squad and supervisor of that squad makes the very initial determination about opening and assigning that case to a particular case agent from his squad. if the person that brings the message in or brings the complaint in in the first place really has no involvement in the continuing investigation unless they just happen to be on that squad in the first place. but normally it would go to the experts. that squad handles it. the original complaining agent is out. >> interesting. tom fuentes, thank you so much for joining us. former assistant of the fbi. >> thank you. >>> general john allen getting a vote of confidence from his boss, defense secretary leon panetta, says allen will remain the commander of the allied and u.s. forces in afghanistan for the moment at least. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one
not the person, the friend, the neighbor, the relative fbi agent. in this particular case, kelley contacts a friend of hers, who is an agent in the tampa office. that agent takes the information into the tampa office. it goes to the cyber squad and supervisor of that squad makes the very initial determination about opening and assigning that case to a particular case agent from his squad. if the person that brings the message in or brings the complaint in in the first place really has no...
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and jill kelley goes to the fbi and that is how this all unravels. now, speaking of general allen, he, of course, is the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan. he was nominated as the supreme allied commander in europe. and that nomination is on hold. but secretary panetta said that they have confidence in him. let's listen to panetta. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading those forces. he has my continued conference to lead those forces and continue to fight. but his nomination has been put on old because it's a prude measure until we determine what the facts are. and we will. >> right, john, obviously it's going to take a while because this is a very tangled situation. but they certainly are looking at exactly what is described as flirtatious e-mails that still remain to be seen what the nature of this was. >> jill, you talk about jill kelley at the center of this whole controversy and scandal. we have new details about her relationship
and jill kelley goes to the fbi and that is how this all unravels. now, speaking of general allen, he, of course, is the top u.s. and nato commander in afghanistan. he was nominated as the supreme allied commander in europe. and that nomination is on hold. but secretary panetta said that they have confidence in him. let's listen to panetta. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isap and leading...
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why are they issues for national debate and why are they issues for the fbi? >> the fbi has to get into the details of those various documents and e-mail that is john ellen had with jill kelley and others only because it's been raised. they have the obligation to investigate it. it's not a story i would prefer to talk about, nor you. we're still a nation at war. we have 68,000 troops on the ground and we're prosecuting an ene enemy. we have to do that right. john allen has a job to take care of an absolutely precious mission in afghanistan to ensure that that transition goes well. i'm with you, will, i would prefer to be talking about something else of far more significant matter. dave petraeus is gone from the cia. it's important we understand there wasn't a breach of national security. paula broadwell had very close access to dave petraeus. i'm not trying to be flippant here, but what was whispered, what was said, what did she have acti access to? that has to be proven there was not risk. i don't have any more data than you do. this investigation has to run
why are they issues for national debate and why are they issues for the fbi? >> the fbi has to get into the details of those various documents and e-mail that is john ellen had with jill kelley and others only because it's been raised. they have the obligation to investigate it. it's not a story i would prefer to talk about, nor you. we're still a nation at war. we have 68,000 troops on the ground and we're prosecuting an ene enemy. we have to do that right. john allen has a job to take...